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It took a lot of courage for this man to speak what he had to say for the world to hear. The retribution could be phenomenal, but at least he was willing to take a stand on his and Austrilia's beliefs. Whole world Needs A Leader Like This!
Prime Minister Kevin Rudd - Australia
Muslims who want to live under Islamic Sharia law were told on Wednesday to get out of Australia , as the government targeted radicals in a bid to head off potential terror attacks..
Separately, Rudd angered some Australian Muslims on Wednesday by saying he supported spy agencies monitoring the nation's mosques. Quote: 'IMMIGRANTS, NOT AUSTRALIANS, MUST ADAPT. Take It Or Leave It. I am tired of this nation worrying about whether we are offending some individual or their culture. Since the terrorist attacks on Bali , we have experienced a surge in patriotism by the majority of Australians. '
'This culture has been developed over two centuries of struggles, trials and victories by millions of men and women who have sought freedom'
'We speak mainly ENGLISH, not Spanish, Lebanese, Arabic, Chinese, Japanese, Russian, or any other language. Therefore, if you wish to become part of our society . Learn the language!'
'Most Australians believe in God. This is not some Christian, right wing, political push, but a fact, because Christian men and women, on Christian principles, founded this nation, and this is clearly documented. It is certainly appropriate to display it on the walls of our schools. If God offends you, then I suggest you consider another part of the world as your new home, because God is part of our culture.'
'We will accept your beliefs, and will not question why. All we ask is that you accept ours, and live in harmony and peaceful enjoyment with us.'
'This is OUR COUNTRY, OUR LAND, and OUR LIFESTYLE, and we will allow you every opportunity to enjoy all this. But once you are done complaining, whining, and griping about Our Flag, Our Pledge, Our Christian beliefs, or Our Way of Life, I highly encourage you take advantage of one other great Australian freedom, 'THE RIGHT TO LEAVE'.'
'If you aren't happy here then LEAVE. We didn't force you to come here. You asked to be here. So accept the country YOU accepted.' (AMEN!!!)
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| Common sense is alive & well in Australia. -ss-
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MOst Australians would not agree..mostly with the common sense part
Myself, although it might sound odd coming from me, but I agree with the Prime Minister 100%. I think we should never interfear with someone's culture, in their land. But you come to my land, you must obey OUR laws first. You must accept OUR culture. I am all for allowing people to live as free as they like, as long as it does not conflict with the cultures of the country they have immigrated to. It would be the same for those of us who immigrate there or go there to work, live by the law of the land. Don't like their laws, don't go there. I wish our governments had the guts to stand up and agree, instead of laying down like whipped little jack asses.. okay, steps down and returns to being a pita.
If we all worked on the assumption that what is accepted as true, is really true, there would be little hope of advance...... Orville Wright
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Sooooo pita, I am quite amazed to hear you agree with the Aussie Prime Minister.
I make that statement because only because you put down the slutty puppy and many others for making the same statements about our good old US of A here.
You aren't starting to see a dim glow from the light bulb are you?
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TheAnswerMan (2/19/2010) Sooooo pita, I am quite amazed to hear you agree with the Aussie Prime Minister.
I make that statement because only because you put down the slutty puppy and many others for making the same statements about our good old US of A here.
You aren't starting to see a dim glow from the light bulb are you?
I would say the problem here is simply that people all to often skim what is said on these boards, forgetting that words are easy to misunderstand. As for puppy and others, what they say about the "god ol USA, is nothing like this. Auzzie's speak what they mean generally, these people seldom follow thoughts with deeds. If these comments were made by an American and could be believed, I would gladly say I agree. But there again, Americans in general, do agree. The problem is the translation to deed from spoken words.
If we all worked on the assumption that what is accepted as true, is really true, there would be little hope of advance...... Orville Wright
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It's great to see a leader have the courage to say these things and not succumb to the pressures of political correctness. McCain could take a lesson from this guy...and other senators, congressmen, governors etc.
Here in the US we're expected to conform to Hispanics who can't speak English. My grandmother was born here and so were her parents. They lived in an area with a very strong German heritage that remains today. Her family spoke Geman at home but they spoke English at school. And her parents spoke English because they needed to be able to communicate with others who didn't speak German.
There is an area near me with a very strong Norwegian heritage. When my dad was in school his friends from that area all spoke Norwegian at home. But they were fluent in english as well.
My point is that so many who've come here to find a better life 'conformed' to our way of life. Many communities that are predominately German, Scandanavian, Irish etc have held on to traditions that go back 100s of years. But they learned to adapt to the American way of life. If I were to move to Russia, Germany, China or Norway I wouldn't expect them to conform to me or my way of life. I would have to learn their language to function in their societies.
In New York you can get a driver's license application in nearly every language in the world. WTF? I'm a little concerned knowing there are so many drivers out there who might not understand all of the road signs.
We need to make English our official language here.
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~laughing~
as awesome as that speech would have been....it never happened. What is your source?
Transcripts of every speech and interview by our PM can be found here: http://www.pm.gov.au/Media_Centre/Transcripts?date_filter_1[value][year]=2010
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never mind... i found the source...
and the reply right under it on the NZ FORUM (wtf???) you found it on....
Kevin Rudd's hard hitting speech to Muslims [ Ann Andrews CSP ] [ 16-Feb-09 12:26am ] [ report spam ] Prime Minister Kevin Rudd - Australia
Muslims who want to live under Islamic Sharia law were told on Wednesday to get out of Australia , as the government targeted radicals in a bid to head off potential terror attacks..
Separately, Rudd angered some Australian Muslims on Wednesday by saying he supported spy agencies monitoring the nation's mosques. Quote: 'IMMIGRANTS, NOT AUSTRALIANS, MUST ADAPT. Take It Or Leave It. I am tired of this nation worrying about whether we are offending some individual or their culture. Since the terrorist attacks on Bali , we have experienced a surge in patriotism by the majority of Australians. '
'This culture has been developed over two centuries of struggles, trials and victories by millions of men and women who have sought freedom'
'We speak mainly ENGLISH, not Spanish, Lebanese, Arabic, Chinese, Japanese, Russian, or any other language. Therefore, if you wish to become part of our society . Learn the language!'
'Most Australians believe in God. This is not some Christian, right wing, political push, but a fact, because Christian men and women, on Christian principles, founded this nation, and this is clearly documented. It is certainly appropriate to display it on the walls of our schools. If God offends you, then I suggest you consider another part of the world as your new home, because God is part of our culture.'
'We will accept your beliefs, and will not question why. All we ask is that you accept ours, and live in harmony and peaceful enjoyment with us.'
'This is OUR COUNTRY, OUR LAND, and OUR LIFESTYLE, and we will allow you every opportunity to enjoy all this. But once you are done complaining, whining, and griping about Our Flag, Our Pledge, Our Christian beliefs, or Our Way of Life, I highly encourage you take advantage of one other great Australian freedom, 'THE RIGHT TO LEAVE'.'
'If you aren't happy here then LEAVE. We didn't force you to come here. You asked to be here. So accept the country YOU accepted.'
Ann Andrews The Corporate Tool-box Online Training Resources
Sorry, this is a hoax... and you've been had! [ Michael Naylor ] [ 17-Feb-09 2:21am ] [ report spam ] The reference to immigrants speaking Spanish sounded wrong and rang a bell. There isn't a strong Spanish-speaking immigrant community in Australia, as compared with Italian or Greek for example. These two communities would have been a more logical target, but it would have been a very crass move indeed since they're as Australian as they come!
According to this (originally, an email forward), former Australian Prime Minister John Howard informed Muslims living in Australia in no uncertain terms that they should leave the country if they wished to live under Islamic Sharia law. The message claims that the then Australian government was intent on targeting Muslim radicals "in a bid to head off potential terror attacks". However, although the message does contain elements of truth, it is in fact highly misleading and inaccurate. At the outset, it should be noted that the message is now quite outdated. Versions of the email began circulating back in 2005.
The first part of the message suggests that Prime Minister Howard told Muslims who wished to live under Islamic Sharia law that they should get out of Australia. This is partly true in the sense that a high profile Australian political leader did make comments suggesting that Islamic extremists who desired to turn Australia into an Islamic state should leave and that Howard condoned such strongly worded rhetoric. However, it was in fact then Federal Treasurer Peter Costello who actually uttered the comments.
The message also claims that John Howard had given government support to spy agencies monitoring the nation's mosques. This element of the message is true.
The next part of the message transcribes what is claimed to be a speech delivered by John Howard detailing his views on immigration. The piece calls on immigrants to learn English, adapt to Australian values and lifestyle and pointedly reminds them that they always have the right to leave if they are unhappy in their adopted country. However, the quoted words were not made by John Howard and were circulating in various forms years before he supposedly uttered them. In fact, the words were originally intended for an American audience and were part of a longer piece penned by Barry Loudermilk, a US Air Force veteran and columnist for a local newspaper in the American state of Georgia. Loudermilk wrote the article as a means of expressing his personal views on patriotism and immigration in post-9/11 America. The article struck a chord with many readers in the US and elsewhere and it soon spread far and wide via email and other means. At some point, versions adapted to Australia, the UK, and elsewhere began circulating. Finally, the Australianized version of Loudermilk's article was falsely attributed to John Howard and tacked on to the original, more accurate, variant of the above email forward (quoted below).
Update:February 2009:- Early in 2009 new versions of the above email named Australia's current Prime Minister, Kevin Rudd, as the person responsible for the supposed anti-Muslim stance. It seems that some rather unimaginative prankster has simply substituted "Rudd" for "Howard" in the text and replaced the photograph of John Howard with one of Kevin Rudd before sending on the message. The message is otherwise identical to the example included above. The "Rudd" version strays even further from the truth than the original. None of the comments or opinions included in the message have any connection whatsoever with Kevin Rudd or his Government.
http://www.hoax-slayer.com/howard-muslim-speech.shtml
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sad to hear that really
If we all worked on the assumption that what is accepted as true, is really true, there would be little hope of advance...... Orville Wright
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However you feel about a particular issue, hoaxes suck.
Remember people - knowledge is power.
Check it out before you pass it on.
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