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X-Man (7/5/2009)
Leave it to some hack from a conspiracy-theory website to come up with such an absurd meaning for the Fourth of July.
I guess we have yet another puppy that cannot come up with real debate, so he or she takes on the idea of blaming it all on one group or another. Perhaps this is puppy's second account?
If we all worked on the assumption that what is accepted as true, is really true, there would be little hope of advance......
Orville Wright
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X-Man (7/5/2009)
Leave it to some hack from a conspiracy-theory website to come up with such an absurd meaning for the Fourth of July.
Awww...is somebody wearing his pouty face today?
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If the 4th of July has to remind you that you are supposedly free, you are not..
If the size of the flag in front of your home dictates the amount of freedom you realize - you have serious freedom problems.
What really gets to my ass about right-wing conservatives in the United States is their constant whining about how everybody is trying to take away their freedom.
Their freedom.
They don’t give a shit about other people’s freedom.
(a) they want the freedom to destroy the environment,
(b) they want the freedom to carry guns in case they ever need to kill someone,
(c) they want the freedom to torture people.
But heaven forbid a woman wants the freedom to abort a child that’s the result of a rape, or gays want the freedom to marry.
Then all of a sudden right-wingers call for government to regulate people’s lives.
These damn shitfaced right wing-nut job hypocritical bigots are making me sick to my stomach.
Word!
(d) they have lost so much credibility during the Bush years, and they continue doing so now.
(e) they are completely losing it,
and
(f) they know it, and that’s why they are totally panicking and saying even more stupid nonsense. It would actually be quite enjoyable to watch, if it weren’t for the fact that lives of innocent people are involved.
What’s amazing is how the term “conservative” has changed since the 60’s. It used to be that it meant having a government which only got involved in private affairs when absolutely necessary. Now it’s about pushing religiously fundamentalist norms and mores on society. The Republican Party puts the “mental” in fundamentalism.
I have never really understood why conservatives even existed.
I take a February 2nd, or a January 9th; a September 25th or even a November 4th to make me think that every day alive - not being bothered by the USA's daily sickness - is a day to celebrate.
For now I go for July 31.
The Chinese Lantern Fest.
To celebrate Light.
In the meantime, shove your wars and your 2 dozen reasons to supposedly fight for some crummy counties freedoms rights up your asses.
I am free, since birth, because I am.
I know where I'm going and I know the truth, and I don't have to be what you want me to be. I'm free to be what I want.
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Now...is there someone we can call that can come stay with you until you start remembering again?
Do we need to contact your doctor about your meds?
I would remind you that extremism in the defense of liberty is no vice! And let me remind you also that moderation in the pursuit of justice is no virtue! - Barry Goldwater
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X-Man (7/5/2009)
Leave it to some hack from a conspiracy-theory website to come up with such an absurd meaning for the Fourth of July.
Well, as we all know, reality has a distinctly liberal bias.
( Meanwhile, in an alternative universe, there was no "revolutionary war", no rebels raging against the machine, no list of grievances against the King, no one gathering up patriots to fight against British authority. In that universe, a bunch of old white dudes living on the American continent got together with a bunch of old white British dudes over tea and said to them, "With your permission, we'd like the chance to run the joint ourselves for awhile. Please, and thank you."
And they all lived happily ever after.)
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umm..wasn't mainly taxation without representation?
maybe you all could rewrite the current history books...nah history period.
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Shameless (7/6/2009)
umm..wasn't mainly taxation without representation?
maybe you all could rewrite the current history books...nah history period.
Dissent grew against King George for many reasons, but at the base was England's heavy handed push for authority over the colonies. One factor of that push was the heavy taxation used to force them to help pay for Britain's huge debt, without giving them a seat in parliament.
However, King George also made other laws they didn't like - for instance, he forbade them from negotiating with Native Americans, and set a boundary for their frontier movement (I think the Appalachian mountains were the boundary, but don't quote me on that). They weren't allowed to make their own laws, and the King himself pretty much considered himself above the law. And he not only kept British troops in their towns, but he forced the colonists to provide them with a place to stay, and refused to prosecute or allow them to be prosecuted for crimes they committed against the colonists.
The list of grievances (in bold) is pretty long - see if any of them sound familiar:
When in the Course of human events it becomes necessary for one people to dissolve the political bands which have connected them with another and to assume among the powers of the earth, the separate and equal station to which the Laws of Nature and of Nature's God entitle them, a decent respect to the opinions of mankind requires that they should declare the causes which impel them to the separation.
We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness. — That to secure these rights, Governments are instituted among Men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed, — That whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new Government, laying its foundation on such principles and organizing its powers in such form, as to them shall seem most likely to effect their Safety and Happiness. Prudence, indeed, will dictate that Governments long established should not be changed for light and transient causes; and accordingly all experience hath shewn that mankind are more disposed to suffer, while evils are sufferable than to right themselves by abolishing the forms to which they are accustomed. But when a long train of abuses and usurpations, pursuing invariably the same Object evinces a design to reduce them under absolute Despotism, it is their right, it is their duty, to throw off such Government, and to provide new Guards for their future security. — Such has been the patient sufferance of these Colonies; and such is now the necessity which constrains them to alter their former Systems of Government. The history of the present King of Great Britain is a history of repeated injuries and usurpations, all having in direct object the establishment of an absolute Tyranny over these States. To prove this, let Facts be submitted to a candid world.
He has refused his Assent to Laws, the most wholesome and necessary for the public good.
He has forbidden his Governors to pass Laws of immediate and pressing importance, unless suspended in their operation till his Assent should be obtained; and when so suspended, he has utterly neglected to attend to them.
He has refused to pass other Laws for the accommodation of large districts of people, unless those people would relinquish the right of Representation in the Legislature, a right inestimable to them and formidable to tyrants only.
He has called together legislative bodies at places unusual, uncomfortable, and distant from the depository of their Public Records, for the sole purpose of fatiguing them into compliance with his measures.
He has dissolved Representative Houses repeatedly, for opposing with manly firmness his invasions on the rights of the people.
He has refused for a long time, after such dissolutions, to cause others to be elected, whereby the Legislative Powers, incapable of Annihilation, have returned to the People at large for their exercise; the State remaining in the mean time exposed to all the dangers of invasion from without, and convulsions within.
He has endeavoured to prevent the population of these States; for that purpose obstructing the Laws for Naturalization of Foreigners; refusing to pass others to encourage their migrations hither, and raising the conditions of new Appropriations of Lands.
He has obstructed the Administration of Justice by refusing his Assent to Laws for establishing Judiciary Powers.
He has made Judges dependent on his Will alone for the tenure of their offices, and the amount and payment of their salaries.
He has erected a multitude of New Offices, and sent hither swarms of Officers to harass our people and eat out their substance.
He has kept among us, in times of peace, Standing Armies without the Consent of our legislatures.
He has affected to render the Military independent of and superior to the Civil Power.
He has combined with others to subject us to a jurisdiction foreign to our constitution, and unacknowledged by our laws; giving his Assent to their Acts of pretended Legislation:
For quartering large bodies of armed troops among us:
For protecting them, by a mock Trial from punishment for any Murders which they should commit on the Inhabitants of these States:
For cutting off our Trade with all parts of the world:
For imposing Taxes on us without our Consent:
For depriving us in many cases, of the benefit of Trial by Jury:
For transporting us beyond Seas to be tried for pretended offences:
For abolishing the free System of English Laws in a neighbouring Province, establishing therein an Arbitrary government, and enlarging its Boundaries so as to render it at once an example and fit instrument for introducing the same absolute rule into these Colonies
For taking away our Charters, abolishing our most valuable Laws and altering fundamentally the Forms of our Governments:
For suspending our own Legislatures, and declaring themselves invested with power to legislate for us in all cases whatsoever.
He has abdicated Government here, by declaring us out of his Protection and waging War against us.
He has plundered our seas, ravaged our coasts, burnt our towns, and destroyed the lives of our people.
He is at this time transporting large Armies of foreign Mercenaries to compleat the works of death, desolation, and tyranny, already begun with circumstances of Cruelty & Perfidy scarcely paralleled in the most barbarous ages, and totally unworthy the Head of a civilized nation.
He has constrained our fellow Citizens taken Captive on the high Seas to bear Arms against their Country, to become the executioners of their friends and Brethren, or to fall themselves by their Hands.
He has excited domestic insurrections amongst us, and has endeavoured to bring on the inhabitants of our frontiers, the merciless Indian Savages whose known rule of warfare, is an undistinguished destruction of all ages, sexes and conditions.
In every stage of these Oppressions We have Petitioned for Redress in the most humble terms: Our repeated Petitions have been answered only by repeated injury. A Prince, whose character is thus marked by every act which may define a Tyrant, is unfit to be the ruler of a free people.
Nor have We been wanting in attentions to our British brethren. We have warned them from time to time of attempts by their legislature to extend an unwarrantable jurisdiction over us. We have reminded them of the circumstances of our emigration and settlement here. We have appealed to their native justice and magnanimity, and we have conjured them by the ties of our common kindred to disavow these usurpations, which would inevitably interrupt our connections and correspondence. They too have been deaf to the voice of justice and of consanguinity. We must, therefore, acquiesce in the necessity, which denounces our Separation, and hold them, as we hold the rest of mankind, Enemies in War, in Peace Friends.
We, therefore, the Representatives of the united States of America, in General Congress, Assembled, appealing to the Supreme Judge of the world for the rectitude of our intentions, do, in the Name, and by Authority of the good People of these Colonies, solemnly publish and declare, That these united Colonies are, and of Right ought to be Free and Independent States, that they are Absolved from all Allegiance to the British Crown, and that all political connection between them and the State of Great Britain, is and ought to be totally dissolved; and that as Free and Independent States, they have full Power to levy War, conclude Peace, contract Alliances, establish Commerce, and to do all other Acts and Things which Independent States may of right do. — And for the support of this Declaration, with a firm reliance on the protection of Divine Providence, we mutually pledge to each other our Lives, our Fortunes, and our sacred Honor.
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